GLIGA Blog: October 2009

We talk about different issues facing homeowners, landlords, real estate agents, and property managers when it comes to insurance. We write about Homes, Vacant Homes, Investment Properties, Apartment Buildings, and Commercial Properties. For quotes or advice go to our website at http://www.getgliga.com or call us at 888-438-4544.

Detroit Michigan; The best and worst place to invest in real estate.

At Great Lakes Insurance Group Agency we write vacant, rehab, and tenant insurance in the city of Detroit as well as all over Michigan.  If anyone needs insurance help, let me know. I would be happy to help any way I can. We felt this blog post was intertesting so we reposted it here.

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Via Maximillion Richman (Richman Publishing LLC):
Detroit, Mi hate it or love it. Its heavily segregated, a vast majority of the residents have poor credit, the city is plagued with crime, the local government is too corrupt, the school system needs improvement, blight has invaded neighborhoods, and etc. I could go on and on, but the city is still highly profitable for real estate investors.

By my estimates 70% of the cities residents prefer to rent oppose to owning. I have met landlords who have told me tenants have paid off their mortgages from living in their properties so long. Detroit does have several nicer areas to live. Sherwood Forest, Rosedale Park, & Palmer Woods to name a few.
The city has the potential to recover, but with all the racism in the Metro Detroit area many large companies do not want to do business here.

Detroit is a very large city but it lacks the necessary industries to make it thrive. I have friends who live right next door to Detroit in Windsor, On. When they cross over to visit me they frequently complain how we have to drive so far to get to places. Its sad to say Detroit only has 2 major restaurant chain sit down restaurants, and there both on the edge of the city near the water front of the Detroit River.

There are no Fridays, Ruby Tuesdays, Chilis, Paneras, Max & Ermas, Red Robbins, outback steak houses, & etc in the city You have to drive into the suburbs to visit them.

Detroit also lacks major shopping mails, major food chain grocery stores, fitness centers, 7-11, Tim Horton's, The Detroit Pistons don't even play in the city, and so on and so forth. Until these issues are addressed the cities growth will stand still. Despite the fact we have 3 hotels with casinos, new stadiums, and development occurring downtown. The traffic comes from the suburbs, and promptly leaves as soon as the show is over. Detroit has become a transient city.

Even though the city has more than 3 strikes against it. For some reason people like living in Detroit. Many have moved, but several hundred thousand have stayed behind. The most damming part of investing in Detroit, Mi is too many real estate investors are in Detroit. All investors want a good quality section 8 tenant, but there are only so many vouchers out there. The city now has a ton of nice rehabbed homes, but a smaller pool of high quality tenants to choose from. You really have to know marketing in Detroit if you want to survive. Because if you run out of cash, you run out of luck....

I have came across too many articles, and press releases ill advising investors about Detroit. They give you the impression that every rental property you buy will yield up to $1000.00 in rent. That is not a realistic estimate. If many Detroit residents could afford that, they would have moved long ago with the others. Check out the demographics of the city by visiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit there you can see what kind of income residents have.

By far the biggest drawback to owning rental property in Detroit are the taxes. Detroit has one of the highest millage rates in the nation. I am currently disputing an S.E.V(state equalized value) because the city raised the taxes so high it doubled the amount of the mortgage payments. I took the battle to the states tax tribunal, because Detroit rarely rectifies the problem. So once you factor in P.I.T.I. (principal,interest,taxes,and insurance) you may end up showing negative cash flow. And after you buy the property the taxes will go up again. Do the math before you make the offer on the property. The deal may not be as sweet as you thought.

Another major hurdle you have to overcome in investing in Detroit real estate is shrinkage. So many investors spend a lot of money rehabbing a house, and soon as the contractor leaves for the day the house is broken into. These burglars work very fast. They will steal every new window installed,kitchen cabinets,sinks,toilet,copper pipes,furnace, hot water tank,bathroom sink,vanity,security doors, and anything else bolted down. And they can accomplish this in a few hours.

Your material ends up on the black market, in someone else's garage sale, or in a hole in the wall mom and pop hardware store.The stolen material is then resold to a contractor, and for the most part they know its stolen goods. You may even end up buying back some of your own material if you don't pay close attention.

The neighborhood where your investment property is located is watching everything. Most of the time a neighbor has a hook up with someone, and lets them know about the vacant house full of treasures. Some of these thieves are crack addicts and will break in, and even try to steal the bathtub. One was so stupid, and petty they stole a vinyl downspout off one of my rental properties. This problem occurs all over the city. Even in some of the better neighborhoods.

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2 commentsDonald Stevens • October 27 2009 12:22PM

A Comment From A Future Client Of Mine On Loss Vegas Fraud

Sorry about that play on words in the title. I do know how to spell most words. Here is an email I received from a client I am working with on some insurance issues.

"Hello Mr. Stevens,
 
Here's a link that you can click to show how they are trying to cope with the foreclosures in Las Vegas www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/oct/15/nevada-bucks-nationwide-downward-foreclosure-trend/
**also view the comments.
 
I lived there 2 years ago. I know first hand that some of the new homes weren't selling and the developers rented the homes out - this was on the news. Apparently, this is what they are doing now to curb the destruction of these properties. Here on the west coast, the people of foreclosures (I'm not sure if I should say victims) they are also flooding the homes, pulling copper wire, removing cabinets, toilets, holes in the walls, removing lighting fixtures.....In fact, there were scams where people would rent out million dollar homes for $1,000 a month.
 
I now see why the prices are slow to come down here, they are not releasing all of the homes. There's also rumor that it has something to do with new legislation that maybe there will be some kind of RTC to take these properties, or something to do with getting more TARP money. BTW, one of the properties for condos, I think it's Flamingo Palms, the homeowner assoc DOESN'T own the land. These condos once sold $100K+, now some are as low as $10k but the homeowner dues are $400+ monthly for legal fees.
 
Thanks,
Carla"

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

2 commentsDonald Stevens • October 26 2009 06:35PM

Great Insight From A Future Detroit Homeowner

I recently received a comment/question sent to my email by a future customer who had read one of my blog posts on active rain. I wanted to post it here so others could get some insight into issues that need to be addressed when buying properties especially in urban areas. I asked the client to watch the posting for information that may be helpful to her.

Carla writes,

"Hello Mr. Stevens,
 
I saw your comments on Activerain.com. Here's a scenario for you, I would like to purchase this home at **** St. Detroit, MI 48224 - it has extensive fire damage. This is okay, as I would like to be able to renovate the home (upgraded wiring, plumbing....) the problem is I live on the west coast. I do plan to occupy the property once it is rehab'd.
 
The problem I have with most RE agents, they don't really want to give the information I need to make an informed decision, so I have repeatedly walked away from buying. I never get the answers to the following questions, 1) total cost to purchase property, such as special assessments through code violations if any, back taxes, what the actual taxes are, closing costs, title ins.... 2) where exactly the property is located, example, Indian Village...., 3) if the home is tagged for demolition, 4) if I purchase home that needs extensive repairs, since I am out of state, do I have to start rehabilitation of home as soon as title is transferred to me - or can I wait to start rehab, is there a time limit before code violations/citations are issued to me as new owner.
 
My question to you, is how much would it cost to insure this home during and after rehab? ***I would like to be present when rehab is being done.
 
Any and all help you could give is appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Carla"

My response,

"You have some great questions and it it good to see someone
approaching real estate in Detroit with some foresight and maturity.
Most investors see the sale price and they do not think about the
additional costs and hidden costs that come with a home needing rehab.

 Is it OK if I re-post your question on active rain so others can be
made aware of potential problems when purchasing any real estate?

Finally, the answer to your question. How much are you buying the home
for and how much will you be spending on rehab?  It sounds like a
contractor is doing the work, or are you doing the work?

Thanks for the email and I hope to hear from you soon.

Don Stevens"

I felt any feedback we could get could create a record of some great dialog and also help potential buyers become aware of the little things that need to be addressed when buying properties needing rehab.

14 commentsDonald Stevens • October 26 2009 05:07PM